It took me a little while to find time to add the flags to the mounted stands, but here they are:
The Dopf dragoons were 4 squadrons strong at Ramillies. Now I have them both mounted and dismounted. I’m not sure I’ll do dismounts for all the dragoons that were present. I guess that would be an ideal. On the French side I have all the dismounts for the squadrons that counterrattacked towards Taviers (and none of the mounted versions – but hopefully I’ll rectify that soon).
Here’s a picture that shows the Quindia/League of Augsburg flag better. It’s always interesting what photography does to the appearance of things. The photo shows way more contrast in the flag than there actually appears to be when looking at it normally. Clarence of Quindia is producing some really nice flags. My next units of Dutch cav will all be done around the flags he has available already.
The photo also shows up pretty well the hazards of being careless with varnish. You can see the varnish residue on the hat of one of the riders. Happens when you put it on too thick. I hate that. And I think I’m pretty careful in putting it on, but still sometimes I find I’ve got some artefacts like that. I’ll touch that up with a little black paint next time I have the figures out.
I was very happy to get an envelope in the mail today with the flags I need to finish the Dopff dragoons. Quindia studios and the League of Augsburg have teamed up to make flags for the Nine Years War and a bunch of other conflicts around the same time. One of the flags is the flag for the Dopff dragoons. I’ve had these painted for awhile and now have added flags to the dismounted guys, pictured above. It’s a nice flag, don’t you think? Quick turnaround time on the order also, nicely done.
You’ve seen the mounted guys in a couple of Ga Pa battle reports, without flags. As soon as I get the flags assembled and glued in I’ll picture them here as well. Here’s a little better view of the flag.
And another closeup of the troopers.
The Dopff dragoons were in the first Dutch cavalry line at Ramillies, on the extreme left of their deployment. I was a little disappointed to discover in the new book by Robert Hall on the Dutch army that the documented uniform of the Dopff dragoons in 1696 was blue with red linings. The next documentation is from 1718 where they are referred to as the red dragoons. I painted them based on Hall’s earlier plate in the Ramillies series. Let’s hope they were in red by 1706, ok?
Here’s a view from behind them, where you can see the spurs.
I received my copy yesterday (from On Military Matters in the US) and spent some time looking through it last night. I just wanted to give some quick first impressions of it. Fantastic! How’s that for quick first impressions?
I heard about this book from Iain Stanford quite some time ago. He is a coauthor with Robert Hall on this, as is Yves Roumegoux. The full title is Uniforms and Flags of the Dutch Army and the Army of Liege 1685-1715. It’s about 450 pages of text with a pile of uniform plates at the back.
I spent some time looking up regiments that I already have painted for my Ramillies order of battle to see whether there were any major gaffs. I had used the Belaubre and Golberg works in German before and had been looking forward to a full revision and update; and also some plates that Robert Hall did in his series for Ramillies. For the most part the units I have are in good shape. (It’s not likely that I’d repaint anything, but if something is too far off I’ll repurpose it as something else). I finished the Dopf dragoons last year based on the Robert Hall plate for the Ramillies series and this will serve as a good example. In the prior plate they are depicted as wearing red uniforms with white facings. In this work new plates are drawn depicting them according to their description from 1689 red with white facings, in the Ath Camp as wearing blue lined red, and hypothetically based on the 1718 description of their colonel as the colonel of the red dragoons. In the new plate the later description is interpreted as red with blue facings. If I were starting from scratch I might go with the uniform from Ath, but I’ll stick with what I have for them being red dragoons.
One interesting first impression is that there seem to be many more descriptions available for specific uniforms from the NYW period than from the WSS period.
The authors have provided lots of drawings of flags and identified when something about a flag is speculative. An example of this is the flag for the horse regiment Nysle. The notes give a uniform of white lined red and a description of the flag as red, both from the Ath Camp in 1696. On the plate it’s noted that the flag design is speculative.
For each regiment there is text describing reference material for the unit, a plate number (if there is one, I think most have them), a chronology of known commanders, a table of actions throughout the period (for Nysle it is listed as present at Ramillies with 1 squadron), a description of uniform and flag. Very thorough.
The only ding I have against the book is that the .pdf index doesn’t provide an easy way to cross click between the text and the plate. In the Hall book on the French cavalry one can easily click on the bookmarks on the left to go quickly between the text and the plate for any given regiment and I miss that in this volume already.
It’s a nice work with a lot to consume. A must have for anyone interested in the NYW or WSS.
Just noticed on the weekly flier from On Military Matters that Robert Hall’s new volume on the Dutch army will be available on CD at the end of April. It’s called UNIFORMS AND FLAGS OF THE DUTCH ARMY AND THE ARMY OF LIEGE 1685-1715 by Robert Hall, Iain Stanford, and Yves Roumegoux. I’ve been waiting for this for some time. Woohoo!
This unit has been “finished” for quite a long time, but it’s still not finished until I get a suitable flag for it.
Gray with yellow facings is a striking uniform. I’m not sure I would use such a dark gray if I were to do it again – it’s not that dark in the Robert Hall plate. But when I started it I had a source that made me think it was a darker gray.
One downside of doing Dutch is the need to paint the mitre plates on the grenadiers. These came out ok.
But I have to admit that after I photographed these the first time I had to go back and touch up the eyes. Photographs are very revealing aren’t they! And I’m very obsessive I guess. I changed these from blue eyes to black and cleaned up around the eyes. You can still see the blue eyes popping out from the other guy in the back rank on the stand with the grenadiers. I’ve decided not to use blue for eyes anymore. They look fine on figures, but really pop out when you photograph them.
Hopefully one of my preferred flag makers will make a flag for these guys soon.
I’ll put up pictures of some of my Dutch regiments starting with Orange Friesland.
Above is a close up of the command stand of the first battalion. I have quite a few Dutch regiments done, but the flag situation for the Dutch is a bit sad. The flags on this unit are from Adolfo Ramos. They are very nice flags, but he only does flags for 4 regiments: Orange Fries, Slangenberg, and another that isn’t in my order of battle. I really wish he’d do at least the flag for Salisch, as OF, Slangenberg, and Salisch were brigaded together and assaulted the towns along the river on the left flank of the Allied line creating a crisis for the French in that part of the field.
Here are the two battalions of Orange Friesland side-by-side.
They were absolutely the first figures I painted for WSS way back when, I’m pretty sure preceding even Picardie for the French. Front Rank does not make Dutch figures with button hole lace so I tried painting it on myself. I don’t think it turned out that great. But there weren’t many figures in the Dutch army with button hole lace, so I’m not holding my breath that FR will ever make such.
I quite like the combination of dark blue with red facings. It’s a nice easy combination to paint.
You may notice from the photo of the 2nd battalion above that I give the Dutch regiments 4 stands and from the banner at the top of the blog that I give the French regiments 3. I do that because the Dutch with fewer ranks in their formation would be wider. But I only model each unit 2 ranks deep regardless. I like the looks of the modellers’ units when they have chosen to depict them with more ranks, but I’m not up to doing the painting for that. I’ll do a posting with more about unit frontages and impact for modelling and gaming in another post.
I think I’ll be getting in a game next week. I can’t wait.
This is my most recently completed Dutch regiment – Slangenberg. I’m very pleased with it mostly because there is a nice flag available for it. Figures are by Front Rank as usual, flag is by Adolfo Ramos.
I’m basing the Dutch units wider because of their typical 3 rank formation. So whereas the French and other units that used a deeper formation will get 3 base widths (18 figures given the way I’m basing things), the Dutch will get 4 base widths. For figures like this in firing poses it allows me to do a few less figures per unit by having the two active grenadiers on the end.
I wish there were more high quality Dutch flags available. Ramos only makes flags for 3 units (I so wish he would do a flag for Salisch to go with these and Orange-Friesland). Warfare Miniatures is releasing some flags that will be suitable for Dutch but they are really oriented towards a decade earlier so there are some changes. GMB doesn’t do flags for the Dutch which is really sad. But you can see from the close-ups below that the Adolfo Ramos flags are really very nice.
There are a lot of GMB flags from the Seven Years War French range that work for this period. You have to be a little bit careful because some flags changed between the periods, but many of them are suitable.
I just received some flags from Warfare and hope to get some units painted up soon to display those. They are quite nice also. I’ve put links for all of these folks under the supplier listing. I should also mention Flags of War. He has some flags that are suitable and was nice enough to knock off some custom flags for me. You’ve seen one already on the Regiment Toulouse in a previous post. Very nice indeed.
Here are a couple of close-ups:
They are that striking grey/white with red again and it looks good. Salisch has the same combo. They would look really great side-by-side I think. I have the lead, hopefully I can get a nice flag for them.